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Re: phone box

PostPosted by jeff wode » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:56 pm

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Anyone else think that Bohemianism is childish


no i quite like it, especially the bit where they sing 'scaramoosh, scaramoosh, can you do the fandango. thunderballs and lightning very very frightning' stirring stuff.

cant see much to be enthused in cars of any type. not my bag really. besides, i would probably only see it in my mirror rapidly diminishing in size!! :D
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by bastard behind the eyes » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:19 am

No it's not jealousy. I admit that I would like to experience driving super cars around a track or on deserted roads but I would never drive a big flash car day to day. I would also never wear flashy expensive clothes or own an iphone.

I understand from that several things:
1 you would gain a sense of enjoyment from a powerful car, perhaps for reasons unknown, but quite probably from the sense of power and “can do” about it, ie having a great deal of power to get from one place to another, without a great deal of effort on your part.
2 you enjoy this but would feel mortified that anyone else would either a) observe you doing so or or b) would make some judgement about you, your attitudes, the expense of your watch, ownership of ipad/phone thingies or the size of your dick/twat. So you enjoy it as much as the next person but are just a little tooo sensitive to the judgements of others and need to get some Jeff Wodes. Hence my point about grabbing it while/where and when you can.
I don’t deny any of the above in looking at myself and yes the roads are too crowded to really enjoy oneself, I admit although it is not quite so bad down here in the South West.

About this dick thing. I admit some people are just about as clichéd as the cliché and maybe I am too BUT there is a deeper point here. In terms testosterone and oestrogen it all makes sense doesn’t it. Woman are essentially risk averse and pessimistic for obvious reasons and men “need freedom” to achieve what they need to achieve and what is more symbolic of that than the ability to get on one’s horse/yakcart/GT and get out there and commune with the stars/stare into the fire/crawl into a cave/kick sand in someone’s face (especially if they are Audi/BMW drivers). Now they really ARE wankers.

How’s that for the start of a debate, Purveyor?
Mr Wode, I knew bikes would come into the thing pretty soon but I just don’t get them
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by bastard behind the eyes » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:26 am

As an addendum. I once had an employee who was an "artist" and liked all sorts of gadget type iphone type things and Japs (married one as it happens but then decided he liked teenage Russian girls and was a "socialist" - I rest my case) and when I happened to mention to him I had bought a bren gun, he said, "why?"
Its whatever your bag is when it comes down to it. Philosophically speaking there is no need for discussion but the ego exists for a purpose (I would love to discuss that) and one might as well hold your bag up and basically try and outvibe others
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by bastard behind the eyes » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:37 am

jeff wode wrote:all balls. the reason we all love it is that we stare at its free living hard drinking devil may care characters, and imagine that we are like them. we see withnails wit and education and imagine we are like him, we see marwoods subtlety loyalty and vulnerability and imagine we are like him. we even see ourselves as being as cultured as monty and as cool as danny.
but the truth is, as we all tap tap tap away at our keyboards in the small hours of the darkness. we are instead as lonely and disfunctional as jake, and as worn down by life as parkin!
whilst we all would like to be elegantly wasted on the best wines of the century, we are more likely to end up on a fucking tractor in the rain with a plastic bag to keep us dry.


Only just noticed this one. How right you are,How right you are. Bit pessimistic tho, perhaps
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by crooked » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:38 am

It appears to be happy hour at Pete and Berni's Philosophical Steakhouse.
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by bastard behind the eyes » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:53 am

crooked wrote:It's got nothing to do with Bohemianism. It's to do with not being in the midst of a mid-life crisis.

As for taking the best of everything, material possessions will never make a person happy. As soon as you fulfil one desire to own something, you gain another desire for something better. I'm no Buddhist but they are right about a few things.


How about just do it and wtf. I have two heroes in life, Flashman and Gurdjieff. Buddha? a fat twat under a fig tree. I bet even he owned underpants
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by jeff wode » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:59 pm

bastard behind the eyes wrote:Mr Wode, I knew bikes would come into the thing pretty soon but I just don’t get them


then you know my thoughts towards fast cars. a bit like a fancy fridge in the kitchen. sure it looks flash enough, and if you have one then you obviously love it, but ultimately its just white goods. modern consumerism packaged and sold to the particular target market. moreso these days when things like car companies are owned by huge multinationals, and the fans of vw seat, skoda et al all defend their own marque to the hilt, despite them all being the same under the skin. bit liks the baseline jags, theyre a 3litre mondeo made by ford, but with the jag bodywork and badge, and their owners drive them with the feeling that they are a cut above the rest of the plebs in the mondeos cos they are driving a jag.
now dont think im some automotive luddite, despising all that is new and modern. cos im not. neither am i a car hater. i just dont get them, same as i dont get why my mrs has a room full of shoes and another full of handbags. she still has them and i dont resent them. i just fail to see the appeal, and likewise she fails to see why i need to put an old motorbike on a plinth in my lounge, but she puts up with it cos its what i want.
now before you point out the gaping hole in my argument about cars being sterile mass produced white goods, yet failing to mention that my bikes are the same, i know, i agree. i realise that you see the bikes and see, well, bikes. but its like everything else in life, it wouldnt do if we were all into the same stuff, and what stirs my soul has 2 wheels and an engine, each to their own in life. i cant be enthused by your nice car. i might if it were an older jag, but thats more about my love of engineering and mechanicals rather than the fact that its a car, im a bit of a sucker for classic vehicles.
final thought i think is, i wonder if we all lived in some kind of logans run/1984 world, where we were forced to conform and be the same, and the law restricted everyone who wanted a car to a range of jags, ferraris, mercs porsches and lambos, if we wouldt all swivel our heads and drool at the prospect of driving a moggy minor or a ford escort, just because it was different and stood out from the norm.
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by The Purveyor » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:08 pm

Loving this. Best discussion that's been on the forum in ages.
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by The Purveyor » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:14 pm

jeff wode wrote:all balls. the reason we all love it is that we stare at its free living hard drinking devil may care characters, and imagine that we are like them. we see withnails wit and education and imagine we are like him, we see marwoods subtlety loyalty and vulnerability and imagine we are like him. we even see ourselves as being as cultured as monty and as cool as danny.
but the truth is, as we all tap tap tap away at our keyboards in the small hours of the darkness. we are instead as lonely and disfunctional as jake, and as worn down by life as parkin!
whilst we all would like to be elegantly wasted on the best wines of the century, we are more likely to end up on a fucking tractor in the rain with a plastic bag to keep us dry.


This grated when I first read it.

Yes, there is truth in what you say - and I can see that it is perceptive (why else do we consume culture other than to identify with characters?) - but it is highly cynical to dismiss all the other reasons why we love the film as "balls".

I would like to see other people to continue listing their reasons, and possibly have this as an additional thread elsewhere.

...crooked?
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by crooked » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:36 pm

The Purveyor wrote:...crooked?

I lost interest in this thread when I saw giant walls of uncapitalised, poorly punctuated text. Sorry.
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by Tennyson » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:51 am

Shame on you, Crooked. The post was very interesting and who cares about capital letters on a messageboard, for goodness sake? I think you're a rotten devil and you should apologise before we rise up and remove you in a bloodless coup.

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Re: phone box

PostPosted by HE Bates » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:02 pm

Web or page, readability is important. And readability is not about content, it's about layout. I'm with Crooked here, but, as a newer member I'd be more diplomatic.
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by The Purveyor » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:22 pm

crooked wrote:
The Purveyor wrote:...crooked?

I lost interest in this thread when I saw giant walls of uncapitalised, poorly punctuated text. Sorry.


I think you've misunderstood me. I was suggesting having the 'Why we like The Film' part of the thread. as a seperate thread.
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by The Purveyor » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:31 pm

HE Bates wrote:Web or page, readability is important. And readability is not about content, it's about layout.


The best(?) digital and print editors understand this. Not many surfers appreciate this, though, and dive in; typing line after line after line of text, thinking readers will follow them to the bitter end.

Sadly, however, there is a downside.

The digital era has lent itself to too much brevity - and this, researchers have found, is changing the way we think:
We expect instant access to knowledge;
We consume and discard it instantly;
And, worse in my view, we are becoming less able to follow arguments and discussions, let alone longer, thought out patterns of logic.

Sod the philosophy - it's about the soundbite.
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Re: phone box

PostPosted by McFuck » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:08 am

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