Right I'm clearing up the Joe Strummer debate right now. Have you ever seen Rude Boy?
Theres an argument between Joe and Ray Gange in it. I do own the film, but I've lent it out at the moment, so I found it in a youtube video conveniently called "Why Joe Strummer was a Socialist." Here's a bit of that argument.
JS: I know how you feel, cos in Russia the system is exactly the same as it was before the Revolution, just a new lot of people driving around in the black cars and all the other people walking, just the same as before. I know what you mean, but..
RG: Thats what it is here innit?
JS: But what I think, why I think the left wing is better than the right wing is because at least it's not just for the few, the many slaving for the few.
RG: Yeah but my idea is to make sure I become one of the few.
JS: Whats the point in being one of the few?
RG: Well at the moment there aint but what happens when we all become equal and someones gotta control it, then the people that control it, as you said before, some people are gonna be riding around in the black cars, so all I wanna do is make sure I'm riding round and not fucking walking.
JS: I've just thought about it a lot and I just think that there's nothing there. You can get all the Rolls Royces, all the dough, all the country houses, all the servants you want and I just think theres nothing at the end of that road, no human life or nothing, that's why I don't want to go that way, thats why I think that its all of us or none.
Now do you still believe that Joe is on your side in this argument? You're using Ray Ganges arguments and claiming Joe Strummers support. Thats why he'd be spinning in his grave over the crap you're coming out with. Because the argument we're having is a lot like the one Joe and Ray are having in the film, and what you're saying is a hell of a lot closer to what Ray Gange says, and what I'm saying is a hell of a lot closer to what Joe Strummer is saying. So stop making out that Joe Strummer believed in your right wing Tory crap. And watch Rude Boy, there's a lot more in there that proves my point.
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